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BlazeWitty Title
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I can't even imagine what kind of technology we'll have even 10 years from now.

The mind boggles.
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How can you say that we won't be needing more storage. 30 years ago who would've thought of storing hours of video on a disc that you can buy in a corner store. Needs change, maybe in the future a new format will come around that needs 1000 times more storage per minute. As you said need causes innovation, and it can work the other way too. If you have a medium and means (wired or wireless) than can hold or transfer vast amounts of data you can create something that utilizes that technology to its fullest and thus gain competitive advantage over your competitors. In other words, what you've written
Quote:Capacity needs have grown exponentially because what we're storing has grown.
may become, "what we're storing will grow exponentially because capacities will grow."
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The new HDDVDs coming out will be filled to capacity when they come out because they are going to burn everything in HD. Perhaps we'll have digital cameras that record such high quality that you can put the image on you computer and zoom to any spot and magnify 100X and still have crisp, sharp 10mega pixel zoomed area. Surely we'd need much larger removable media for those.

I'm not completely sold on the idea of wireless transmissions being able to transfer such vast amounts of data so quickly that we'd have no need for removable media. I know we only use a very narrow band of the spectrum for non-military, non-commercial use, but what are the limits of how much we can send through the air at one time, assuming that we could use the full spectrum?
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You eventually get to a point of "good enough", and portable hard drives, especially the kind that play music, are a hell of a lot easier to use, and a hell of a lot faster than read-only media. There will be less demand for the media because people only want the information, and the ease of use of carrying 80GB on a portable hard drive, whose information you can change, with the added benefit of playing music, is never going to be surpassed by "ease of use" of carrying media around.

If you look at the situation right now, I guarantee that I can copy data to my iPod and take it somewhere faster and easier than someone can burn read-only media, pack it up, and take it somewhere else for use, and that's not going to change.

Hard drives will be seen as "good enough" for people who want to store a lot of information, because their capacities are relatively high, and because they're easier to manage than removeable media.

There are millions of millions of iPods and other portable hard drives out there, and I would bet that the people who have them are using removeable media a hell of a lot less than they were before they had them.

The internet, with fiber-optic media, is going to come to a point where you'll be able to stream whatever you want on-demand, because it offers more bandwidth than we currently know how to use.

CD-type media is a hassle to use, because it's easy to damage and a pain to keep track of. It's not going to stick around.
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Maybe they'll change form or technology employed but I can see cheap read-only media sticking around in the foreseeable future.
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When the price on portable hard discs like iPods falls enough, I just don't see any reason they would.
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matt wrote: When the price on portable hard discs like iPods falls enough, I just don't see any reason they would.


But how much will it fall, if what you say becomes true and hard drives can hold vast amounts of information while the needs for storage don't increase as much, the sales of hard drives would plummet. Buy a "small" capacity hard drive and store everything you could ever need on it. With low sales there'll be no motive for invention and mass production and prices would remain forbiddingly high.

The way I see it the current trent will continue in the long term. Both capacities and needs will increase. There will be a place for both huge capacity hard drives and smaller capacity dirt cheap read only media.
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I like this thought:
I walk up to my external HD, touch it, and the static from my body is the catalyst that transfers all the data stored on the HD to the static that I carry, much like a human RAM disk. then I go over to my client's desk, and touch his external hard drive (shut up, you sick puppy) and zap, the data is instantly transfered!

Or scratch the HD, and just have a small "transfer pad" or metal button on the keyboard or something.

Hey it's my dream, I can do what I want in it.
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petikas wrote: How can you say that we won't be needing more storage. 30 years ago who would've thought of storing hours of video on a disc that you can buy in a corner store.


For that matter, thirty years ago the concept of an ordinary person having video capability at all beyond being able to watch TV was beyond the ken of many Average Citizens. That one could actually have a copy of a movie that one could watch anytime one wanted just as one could play an album or read a book anytime one wanted was almost like science fiction for all but a small handful of home video early adopters.
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matt wrote:[ I ] thought 5.25" floppies were the top of the line and didn't know that hard drives existed until about eight years ago

matt wrote:On the other hand, everyone with a computer from the last seven or eight years has USB ports


You knew about USB ports in 1997 but not hard drives?
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